OP, I think you should change your mindset here. You didn't lose anything of value no matter how much money this guy had. He wasn't a good long time choice and your better off without him. In time you will see that, you just need to let time kill your feelings for him.
Except it was really not a threat. Stating a fact that you need a thing and if it never happens/no change ever occurs, that's not acceptable for you definitely, is not the same as dropping an ultimatum here and now!
Like if I tell my bf “you know my goal is marriage, I won't want to be with someone who will never marry me” that does not translate to: “If you don't propose now, you can get out”. It's a general thought about my needs, it can be even said on the first date. It's not a threat! It's communication.
I'm surprised the therapist, someone who should understand nuances, jumped to the most hardcore and negative conclusion. Sounds like she kinda wanted there to be a divorce, like it was wishful thinking.
I would say more, this sounds manipulative on the therapist's part. It's like when you tell your SO: “Look I really can't have you do this highly irritating thing, please? ” and they go “Well then I GUESS YOU DON'T WANT ME THEN!” This type of going from 0 to 100 when a person has a complaint is manipulative and designed to shut down the complaint. It's weird that the therapist did that. Worrying, too.
Not to guilt you, but you took the last 8 years that she could have a child of her own (safely).
Also, I find the “2 sons, 2 daughters, perfectly matching outfits” comment kinda weird. How about “2 little ones matching each other”? How does that ruin your “Perfection”?
Ruined this woman’s life… Not too late to make things right with your wife.
Reading all the rest of you comments, I think you are an amazing, loving and giving person – I really do mean it! I mean, carrying for someone that apparently does not care for you, working hard to support both of you, doing chores around the house and also being considered of his feelings. You deserve so much better than someone who just leaches of you.
Reading all the rest of you comments, I think you are an amazing, loving and giving person – I really do mean it! I mean, carrying for someone that apparently does not care for you, working hot to support both of you, doing chores around the house and also being considered of his feelings. You deserve so much better than someone who just leaches of you.
The truth is, you will never be her top priority. That honor belongs to her child. And quite likely, she will put work before a relationship because that job is her lifeline. She also might choose to put herself before you too because she needs a break and her opportunities for spare time as a single parent are basically non-existent. So that leaves you in 3rd-4th position. Until you can acknowledge that and be more selfless and supportive, she isn't going to trust you.
Should be mandatory. Women have very little chance of leaving the hospital with someone else’s baby. Many men end up raising someone else’s child. I can guarantee that if a bunch of women were leaving the hospital with someone else’s kid, it’d be a national crisis. Yet nothing is done to resolve this situation for men. Quite to the contrary, look at how these woman react to something as simple as a paternity test request.
I think it may have even been a social experiment. Like one person doing the same post, making like variations to mask that it is the same person, and doing one from female point of view, one for the guy. If they were expecting different responses about the guy, it was a back fire.
We met back in December. We went on one date. The second date was SIX WEEKS later because of some things that happened with work and he was sick for a week.
I ended up breaking things off before the second date telling him that this was messing with anxiety I already had. I expressed how I felt about his busy schedule and said “it’s okay, nothing wrong with you. Just have two different schedules”
He apologized and called and we went on the second date six weeks after the first. We hung out for about week or so.
But his busy schedule started again.
We were supposed to go out on my birthday. And it’s fine that we didn’t go but I just wish he had not made the plan and cancelled only to not reschedule. Just felt disappointed. So far we’ve hung out four times since December
In all fairness, it does sound like you are calling him stupid. If he is stupid, how do you proceed? It sounds like you dont like or respect him – that is probably making hus behavior even worse – he feels insecure and is second guessing himself. I dont know where you go from here, but neither of you sound happy and it doesnt seem like you want to work on it, so divorce seems likely.
I'm guessing he's in his feelings feeling left out. Plan something special for the two of you to do on the weekend after and have nude, sexy crazy monkey sex the night before you go. It's healthy to have separate interests/friends, etc. Keep an eye on it, though, as the psycho jealous ones start small, and before you realise it, you have no friends or interests left outside of your so.
Both, I suppose. But his fixation on both women is the biggest red flag I’ve ever seen. This is be careful breaking up, because he might kill you level creepy.
worrying about losing her is what makes you lose her, assume you've already lost her and then just enjoy the moments you have, this will make you more attractive instead of being clingy. It does not 100% prevent losing her but you're already past it now and it does up your chances.
OP, I think you should change your mindset here. You didn't lose anything of value no matter how much money this guy had. He wasn't a good long time choice and your better off without him. In time you will see that, you just need to let time kill your feelings for him.
Except it was really not a threat. Stating a fact that you need a thing and if it never happens/no change ever occurs, that's not acceptable for you definitely, is not the same as dropping an ultimatum here and now!
Like if I tell my bf “you know my goal is marriage, I won't want to be with someone who will never marry me” that does not translate to: “If you don't propose now, you can get out”. It's a general thought about my needs, it can be even said on the first date. It's not a threat! It's communication.
I'm surprised the therapist, someone who should understand nuances, jumped to the most hardcore and negative conclusion. Sounds like she kinda wanted there to be a divorce, like it was wishful thinking.
I would say more, this sounds manipulative on the therapist's part. It's like when you tell your SO: “Look I really can't have you do this highly irritating thing, please? ” and they go “Well then I GUESS YOU DON'T WANT ME THEN!” This type of going from 0 to 100 when a person has a complaint is manipulative and designed to shut down the complaint. It's weird that the therapist did that. Worrying, too.
Give her a kid, or two.
Not to guilt you, but you took the last 8 years that she could have a child of her own (safely).
Also, I find the “2 sons, 2 daughters, perfectly matching outfits” comment kinda weird. How about “2 little ones matching each other”? How does that ruin your “Perfection”?
Ruined this woman’s life… Not too late to make things right with your wife.
Dump him.
Reading all the rest of you comments, I think you are an amazing, loving and giving person – I really do mean it! I mean, carrying for someone that apparently does not care for you, working hard to support both of you, doing chores around the house and also being considered of his feelings. You deserve so much better than someone who just leaches of you.
Reading all the rest of you comments, I think you are an amazing, loving and giving person – I really do mean it! I mean, carrying for someone that apparently does not care for you, working hot to support both of you, doing chores around the house and also being considered of his feelings. You deserve so much better than someone who just leaches of you.
The truth is, you will never be her top priority. That honor belongs to her child. And quite likely, she will put work before a relationship because that job is her lifeline. She also might choose to put herself before you too because she needs a break and her opportunities for spare time as a single parent are basically non-existent. So that leaves you in 3rd-4th position. Until you can acknowledge that and be more selfless and supportive, she isn't going to trust you.
Should be mandatory. Women have very little chance of leaving the hospital with someone else’s baby. Many men end up raising someone else’s child. I can guarantee that if a bunch of women were leaving the hospital with someone else’s kid, it’d be a national crisis. Yet nothing is done to resolve this situation for men. Quite to the contrary, look at how these woman react to something as simple as a paternity test request.
I think it may have even been a social experiment. Like one person doing the same post, making like variations to mask that it is the same person, and doing one from female point of view, one for the guy. If they were expecting different responses about the guy, it was a back fire.
We met back in December. We went on one date. The second date was SIX WEEKS later because of some things that happened with work and he was sick for a week.
I ended up breaking things off before the second date telling him that this was messing with anxiety I already had. I expressed how I felt about his busy schedule and said “it’s okay, nothing wrong with you. Just have two different schedules”
He apologized and called and we went on the second date six weeks after the first. We hung out for about week or so.
But his busy schedule started again.
We were supposed to go out on my birthday. And it’s fine that we didn’t go but I just wish he had not made the plan and cancelled only to not reschedule. Just felt disappointed. So far we’ve hung out four times since December
He works with sewage and didn’t change? ?
In all fairness, it does sound like you are calling him stupid. If he is stupid, how do you proceed? It sounds like you dont like or respect him – that is probably making hus behavior even worse – he feels insecure and is second guessing himself. I dont know where you go from here, but neither of you sound happy and it doesnt seem like you want to work on it, so divorce seems likely.
He shouldn’t be dating if he can’t make basic windows of time for you.
Sounds like he’s not that bothered about dating. Stay if you’re happy with casual and intermittent. Leave if you want more.
The early stages of dating are for you both to work out what you expect and what you won’t put up with. You can break up if you’re not getting this.
I'm guessing he's in his feelings feeling left out. Plan something special for the two of you to do on the weekend after and have nude, sexy crazy monkey sex the night before you go. It's healthy to have separate interests/friends, etc. Keep an eye on it, though, as the psycho jealous ones start small, and before you realise it, you have no friends or interests left outside of your so.
He needs a wake up call. Dumping him may be good for him in the long run. It is probably good idea for you
Both, I suppose. But his fixation on both women is the biggest red flag I’ve ever seen. This is be careful breaking up, because he might kill you level creepy.
worrying about losing her is what makes you lose her, assume you've already lost her and then just enjoy the moments you have, this will make you more attractive instead of being clingy. It does not 100% prevent losing her but you're already past it now and it does up your chances.