Communication. Sit down and tell her she's not a dependant, you're in this together for the long haul and this is an investment in her and your future to have this arrangement that allows for stress-free schooling. She is pulling her weight. You don't have to be paid money to pull your weight. She is working nude.
Also, get married when you want to, don't let school dictate that.
I'm the one who went back to school at exactly this age. That's how I felt. I was working hot. It was an intense 3 days a week and I had a crappy part time job, so I was still working a little for spending money, he made lots and rent was cheap. I wasn't feeling guilty.
Is this serious? Is that much a blow to your ego that he was unsure of you when you first met his friends? He literally said he doesn't feel that way right now, but you're upset at how he felt in the past?
You should examine your own feelings why you believe this is an issue. Are you seeking some unrealistic storybook ending?
It's not affection, it's treating her as a sexual object, and particularly unpleasant that you do it while standing by doing nothing while she cooks. Did you notice that she's made clear she doesn't consent, and you're demanding SHE apologises?
My dude, don’t let your pride and ego get in the way of a good thing. The connection you have made with her and the intimacy you have shared are different than you’ve had with other women, right? It is for her too. Don’t spoil it.
The possibility you'll get struck by lightning three times next week at noon, on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday is also there … not impossible at all … that however doesn't make it at all probable or common.
And, in the case of mental illness … violence? Best predictor of violence isn't mental illness … it's history of violence/threats, not mental illness.
So, has he been violent before, threatening, out-of-control anger, use of or possession of weapons, especially lethal weapons such as firearms. Those would generally be most useful indicators of risk of any violence (beyond suicide to themselves).
Psychotic – especially severe psychoses – major detachments from reality – that would also be a risk factor regarding violence (adds significantly larger degree of unpredictability). But that's not what appears to be going on here – so far all we've been shown/told, would seem to indicate depression.
It's absurdly rare that someone with zero history of violence or violent threats, etc., even with major mental health issues, goes out and does violence to other person(s). Most of the time if someone with mental illness does violence to others, there's a history of violence, or violent threats, or problems with anger – as in unmanaged problematic anger – not merely getting angry (most people get angry at least on occasion). Though there's bit more of exception to that with major psychotic episodes (but that doesn't appear to be the case here).
Other warning indicators to watch out for are attitudes towards pregnant partner and baby – so sure, sometimes sh*t goes severely wrong there – but being depressed and/or feeling “nothing” ain't the kind'a stuff that correlates to violence towards partner/baby. More commonly problematic indicators there would be (of course) of violence or threats of violence, likewise anger/hatred towards partner/baby. Also, too over-the-top unnaturally nice/sweet disingenuous – as in saccharine piled on way high – can be major warning sign indicators of major deceit and thoughts/intentions/plans/etc. that may be quite contrary to the at least superficial outward general indicators.
And yeah, police contacting midwife – likely (also) part of checking making sure all are safe, and likely remain safe – e.g. be sure he's not a threat to partner/baby, perhaps question and/or caution midwife, regarding any hazard indicators from him – either directly or that midwife might be or become aware of via the pregnant woman (e.g. something she says about something he did or said, etc.).
If police thought he was a probable threat to her and/or baby, they probably would've made sure he stays securely locked up – so long as they consider him to be a significant threat. If he's free to walk or free to walk once the depression is sufficiently addressed at least for the moment, then the police probably think he's not a risk in those regards (not that they're right all the time, but most of the time they're correct … and they'd often consult with or use mental health professionals in regard to such evaluation – and they generally have at least some training on the matter – though it's generally not super intensive training on mental health and such).
Caveats: I am not a mental health professional, nor do I play one on TV.
Yeah that only applies when it's an external “down” like when one of you looses a job or get sick, in these situations there obviously is no benefit to leaving the relationship.
But when there are downs within the relationship, in psychologically healthy people, this only weakens the relationship. I've seen a lot of people who have pushed through downs (because they stayed together for children) and their relationship was never as good as before or good enough to be something someone would want.
Maybe you don't get it because you weren't successful in marriage but as someone who has done it long term every down lessens the relationship post recovery. It's like getting sick, a health person will recover but they'll always be slightly weaker for it.
To put it in perspective, I'm turning 27, on track for a PhD and I had to come back due to rent until I am working. Depending on the City and her career choice, moving out at 19 is either stupid, impossible or stupid and impossible
Late to this post, probably too late for discussion but still had a question.
What did the communication process look like between the two of you when you started this side hustle? You say you’ve become “very busy”, besides the going out with friends twice a week, what does your day look like? What kind of money are you making or is it more of a hobby that gives you some pocket change?
I ask all of this because while I do not agree with him or his approach and think he may be a traditional, controlling type of person – I could emphasize a little bit if the two of you had a game plan of one person working and the other being a homemaker and then you suddenly changed that without any discussion or input from him.
He grew up in an extremely abusive environment. He was tortured by his parental figures. I see when that good person who needs love is in there. I was also abused so when things are good we are affectionate and feed that empty part in eachother. When he’s happy he uses sweet words and likes to spend time with me a lot. I love his intelligence and what we have in common…but when it’s bad, it’s like a suffocating night mare
You DO realize that he will expect all his future sons-in-law to come begging to him for permission to marry your daughters, don't you? Do you really want to put your future daughters in this position you're in now? What other gender-assigned roles will your fiancé be insistent about pushing onto your daughters? Your sons?
You and your fiancé are incompatible on a basic moral value: You are not the property of your father! Your daughters will not be HIS property!
Or get my own apartment and wait a year to try to move in (probably the best option).
What do you think is going to change in that year?
I'm not at all saying move in with him now, 6 months is too soon to me and personally I'd never want to live! with my partner's parent(s), but it seems like you're just delaying the inevitable. This would be a deal breaker situation for me.
She wants us to tell him for her ?
I red your old posts too. You are such a wife material. Please respect and love yourself. Leave this guy.
Does the husband knew she was escort?
I wouldn’t even stress over this honestly safe sex is the best sex
Communication. Sit down and tell her she's not a dependant, you're in this together for the long haul and this is an investment in her and your future to have this arrangement that allows for stress-free schooling. She is pulling her weight. You don't have to be paid money to pull your weight. She is working nude.
Also, get married when you want to, don't let school dictate that.
I'm the one who went back to school at exactly this age. That's how I felt. I was working hot. It was an intense 3 days a week and I had a crappy part time job, so I was still working a little for spending money, he made lots and rent was cheap. I wasn't feeling guilty.
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Why do they need to be friends and hang out? You can only ask someone to be cordial, which your dad is.
You're allowed to date but if your 47 yr old ass is hitting on girls who are half your age then yeah, you're a creep.
Ummm can you say groomed? Wtf. He didn’t smoke in the home the past 4 years?
She only tells me after ghosting me. I did ask her to give me a heads-up before but she he never does
Stop arguing with them, stop fighting, communicate as little as possible.
Make sure they have no access to any banking information or accounts that are yours. When you are financially able, find a roommate abd move out
I don't understand what you are asking. You are obviously going to break up with him, right? Like, how can a person do anything else?
My advice would be to speak to a police officer and see if this counts as assault where you live!.
Dude, this has to be fake.
Is this serious? Is that much a blow to your ego that he was unsure of you when you first met his friends? He literally said he doesn't feel that way right now, but you're upset at how he felt in the past?
You should examine your own feelings why you believe this is an issue. Are you seeking some unrealistic storybook ending?
His language is weird to me. Not the idea of bringing up a prenuptial agreement when marriage was discussed, that’s pretty normal.
But the ‘corporate judge ruling in the interest of the state’ thing is a weird thing to say.
Next time say yes, dumbass.
And respect her boundaries. No means no.
It's not affection, it's treating her as a sexual object, and particularly unpleasant that you do it while standing by doing nothing while she cooks. Did you notice that she's made clear she doesn't consent, and you're demanding SHE apologises?
My dude, don’t let your pride and ego get in the way of a good thing. The connection you have made with her and the intimacy you have shared are different than you’ve had with other women, right? It is for her too. Don’t spoil it.
Ah, I see now. Lol
the possibility is there
The possibility you'll get struck by lightning three times next week at noon, on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday is also there … not impossible at all … that however doesn't make it at all probable or common.
And, in the case of mental illness … violence? Best predictor of violence isn't mental illness … it's history of violence/threats, not mental illness.
So, has he been violent before, threatening, out-of-control anger, use of or possession of weapons, especially lethal weapons such as firearms. Those would generally be most useful indicators of risk of any violence (beyond suicide to themselves).
Psychotic – especially severe psychoses – major detachments from reality – that would also be a risk factor regarding violence (adds significantly larger degree of unpredictability). But that's not what appears to be going on here – so far all we've been shown/told, would seem to indicate depression.
It's absurdly rare that someone with zero history of violence or violent threats, etc., even with major mental health issues, goes out and does violence to other person(s). Most of the time if someone with mental illness does violence to others, there's a history of violence, or violent threats, or problems with anger – as in unmanaged problematic anger – not merely getting angry (most people get angry at least on occasion). Though there's bit more of exception to that with major psychotic episodes (but that doesn't appear to be the case here).
Other warning indicators to watch out for are attitudes towards pregnant partner and baby – so sure, sometimes sh*t goes severely wrong there – but being depressed and/or feeling “nothing” ain't the kind'a stuff that correlates to violence towards partner/baby. More commonly problematic indicators there would be (of course) of violence or threats of violence, likewise anger/hatred towards partner/baby. Also, too over-the-top unnaturally nice/sweet disingenuous – as in saccharine piled on way high – can be major warning sign indicators of major deceit and thoughts/intentions/plans/etc. that may be quite contrary to the at least superficial outward general indicators.
And yeah, police contacting midwife – likely (also) part of checking making sure all are safe, and likely remain safe – e.g. be sure he's not a threat to partner/baby, perhaps question and/or caution midwife, regarding any hazard indicators from him – either directly or that midwife might be or become aware of via the pregnant woman (e.g. something she says about something he did or said, etc.).
If police thought he was a probable threat to her and/or baby, they probably would've made sure he stays securely locked up – so long as they consider him to be a significant threat. If he's free to walk or free to walk once the depression is sufficiently addressed at least for the moment, then the police probably think he's not a risk in those regards (not that they're right all the time, but most of the time they're correct … and they'd often consult with or use mental health professionals in regard to such evaluation – and they generally have at least some training on the matter – though it's generally not super intensive training on mental health and such).
Caveats: I am not a mental health professional, nor do I play one on TV.
Yeah that only applies when it's an external “down” like when one of you looses a job or get sick, in these situations there obviously is no benefit to leaving the relationship.
But when there are downs within the relationship, in psychologically healthy people, this only weakens the relationship. I've seen a lot of people who have pushed through downs (because they stayed together for children) and their relationship was never as good as before or good enough to be something someone would want.
Maybe you don't get it because you weren't successful in marriage but as someone who has done it long term every down lessens the relationship post recovery. It's like getting sick, a health person will recover but they'll always be slightly weaker for it.
To put it in perspective, I'm turning 27, on track for a PhD and I had to come back due to rent until I am working. Depending on the City and her career choice, moving out at 19 is either stupid, impossible or stupid and impossible
Thats a tough situation. Just making sure….. are you 100% sure your wife isnt lying about phone being someone elses?
Late to this post, probably too late for discussion but still had a question.
What did the communication process look like between the two of you when you started this side hustle? You say you’ve become “very busy”, besides the going out with friends twice a week, what does your day look like? What kind of money are you making or is it more of a hobby that gives you some pocket change?
I ask all of this because while I do not agree with him or his approach and think he may be a traditional, controlling type of person – I could emphasize a little bit if the two of you had a game plan of one person working and the other being a homemaker and then you suddenly changed that without any discussion or input from him.
He grew up in an extremely abusive environment. He was tortured by his parental figures. I see when that good person who needs love is in there. I was also abused so when things are good we are affectionate and feed that empty part in eachother. When he’s happy he uses sweet words and likes to spend time with me a lot. I love his intelligence and what we have in common…but when it’s bad, it’s like a suffocating night mare
Probably both kids just to be sure.
You DO realize that he will expect all his future sons-in-law to come begging to him for permission to marry your daughters, don't you? Do you really want to put your future daughters in this position you're in now? What other gender-assigned roles will your fiancé be insistent about pushing onto your daughters? Your sons?
You and your fiancé are incompatible on a basic moral value: You are not the property of your father! Your daughters will not be HIS property!
Or get my own apartment and wait a year to try to move in (probably the best option).
What do you think is going to change in that year?
I'm not at all saying move in with him now, 6 months is too soon to me and personally I'd never want to live! with my partner's parent(s), but it seems like you're just delaying the inevitable. This would be a deal breaker situation for me.
I’m one of those people who would want to keep that going because…like damn. That’s a long streak.